What is going on around here lately? Good people are leaving in droves or getting kicked off the board. It's starting to resemble something out of Nazi Germany! Every time someone starts a new thread to find out what is going on, it gets locked. Don't you think we are adult enough to ask a question, without malice, and expect an answer? I suppose this one will get locked too, but I for one, do not understand where people who are on a prep board spend more time bitching, yelling and banning, etc....than they do talking about prep stuff. But then the whole world seems to lost its collective mind too...I think yall need to take a step back away from the damn keyboard and get a grip. This is getting way over the top.
I have heard many of our old members have gone to Current Events forum if you are looking for someone specific.
I talked to Brooks by phone this morning and told her I was very sorry to hear she has been banned and apparently for no reason. She was in good spirit, good frame of mind, not upset and told me where she would be on the net. She is a truly great lady and TB is less and the loser today from her banning. This banning of Brooks action does not even have logic anywhere near it.
I am at a loss to understand why someone of Brooks intelligence and caliber was banned when she had not even done anything to be banned.
The only thing I can think is it must be true what someone told me recently that Dennis must be under the influence/threat of some Alphabet agency to shred TB to the wind as they don't like the tight knit group of likeminded people with a desire for independence and the intelligence level here to be collected in one place.
__________________ obo
He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished. - Proverbs 17:5
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." Aristotle
Onebyone Faith - Hope - Love Join Date: May 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 13,297
Quote: Originally Posted by imaginative Did the posting of Brook's real-life address on Tb2k seem to be way out of line to you?
I didnt have a real problem with the 'controversy' up until that point.
Members or former members names or addresses should NEVER be posted on the net by staff or owners of the board. This is very unethical and can cause harm to Brooks from who knows what kind of creeps may be viewing the net. This has broken the trust factor for real with Dennis for me. __________________ obo
bluwillo Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 379
Quote: Originally Posted by diamonds S However some people felt the need to take their issues into the real world. You mean like Dennis posting someone's real name and where s/he lives? Like that? Quote: Originally Posted by diamonds SSo now it is time for TB to get back to normal. Time for us to move on. Time for us to remember this is the internet. Somethings never change. Nothing to see here, move along. Do not ask questions!
Someone compared this to Nazi Germany. Being German, I'm rather sensitive to the overuse of "Nazi" in today's world. In this case, however, I think it might fit. I haven't been here in a long time, but have been a member of this group since the Greenspun days. Maybe I missed the post where we were told that we could only talk about certain things? And we weren't to question Dennis or the mods? If I did miss it, someone please direct me to it.
Closing threads that question recent events, posting member's info (under dubious evidence at best) and banning good posters for no reason....what the heck is going on here? __________________ Homeschooling - Changing America's future...one teenager at a time!
Dennis Olson Chief Curmudgeon Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 35,311
I will say this one time:
I have independently verified information that JOE (aka Plain o Joe), who lives in xxxx with BROOKS, has threatened my life. I chose to make the threat public in the hope that shining the light of day on such a THREAT TO MURDER SOMEONE BY A MEMBER would cause the person to rethink their pending actions. Once a THREAT TO MURDER SOMEONE is made here, all guarantees of "meatworld privacy" are null and void.
If some of you cannot understand WHY that would be true, I do invite you to make your cyber home elsewhere. I will not discuss this further, nor debate with those of you armchair quarterbacks to have NOTHING BUT WORDS invested in this. My life was directly threatened. Not yours or your loved ones. Now I respectfully submit that you consider the hard reality of what I just said.
Brooks was entirely collateral damage. When Lynnie was banned, she immediately logged on as Markus in an attempt to continue her "crusade." Because of that, Markus' account had to be removed as well. When PoJ was banned, I felt that he'd simply log on as Brooks and continue doing the things that caused his removal. (And no, it was NOT his responses on a thread that brought it on.)
Staff decisions are not up for a popularity vote. The fact that we even ALLOW discussion of these topics should be proof enough of how genuinely lenient this place is compared to many others. I WILL take whatever action I deem necessary to safeguard not only the forum and its members, but myself as well. Note that recently, there have been forays from ex-members into MY REAL LIFE. Because of that, I take a murder threat pretty seriously.
You are free not to of course, because it's not your lives that are being threatened.
Now, if you can't remain on TB after reading this post, please just LEAVE. The Internet is a very big place. My goal is to remain safe, and keep my family safe, in our real world lives. Whether or not that affects some of your "personal trust" in me doesn't matter...
EDIT: For the record, I just finished providing the responding officer with the complete details and contact information not only for the people to whom Joe made the threats, but for Joe as well. So the whole thing is now completely on-the-record with the police.
Dennis Olson Chief Curmudgeon Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 35,311
Kate, one does not handle murder threats with silence. When you have the insane Muslim call you, do you sit there and take it, or do you contact the authorities and tell people what's happening? The best DEFENSE against attacks is making them as public as possible. That way (hopefully) the person contemplating the attack might realize that there's no way to avoid capture if they follow through with it.
And THAT is 100% why I made it all public. I would MUCH RATHER not have him visiting my home with intent to do harm. Because if he does, and if I taks steps to defend myself, I'm the one that ultimately has to spend $100,000 on lawyers, and go through the wrongful death hearings. NO ONE HERE except for myself will be in that position.
Quote: Originally Posted by Dennis Olson Yes Kate, I understand. But evidently you can't understand that a real-world crime has been committed by him. I have no "duty" to keep ANYTHING private when a death threat has been made against me. If you can't understand that, well, there's no way I can explain it to you. Perhaps you should ask a police officer or your local district attorney about the issue.
And unless you plan on threatening my life, or the lives of other TB members, your information is quite secure.
I just hope you are 100% correct in your accusation of this person. I still think you are risking your business - the board by doing what your doing. Handling it this way.
It would be like a store I call on making the customers involved. But you see that as being okay right! __________________ Father's Love Letter
Homer Simpson: "Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a Q-tip"
Onebyone Faith - Hope - Love Join Date: May 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 13,298
Quote: Originally Posted by KateCanada I just hope you are 100% correct in your accusation of this person. I still think you are risking your business - the board by doing what your doing. Handling it this way.
It would be like a store I call on making the customers involved. But you see that correct!
I totally understand where you are coming from Kate but am not really sure Dennis can see that if he, Dennis is not able to prove in a court of law that POJ did truly threaten his life then Dennis has liabled POJ even under POJ's own name; thus Dennis has opened himself and thus the board's life and possibly mods assets, since he has made the board his property, to liable in a court of law.
Not even counting the trust factor of other members who donate and give their private information to Dennis in so doing, who now wonder if conflict arises will their info be outted publically. __________________ obo
He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished. - Proverbs 17:5
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." Aristotle
BRKG - I kept my mouth shut right up until now. This is bull****..
That's 3 freaking people you've outted, with addresses and information Dennis. I don't care what the hell you thought you were doing, but that is straight up bull****. I don't know any of these people. I don't know who or what the hell is going on. Enough is enough. What the hell is wrong with you man?
Jesus Christ!
When did TB2K become some kind of bizantine police state.
Dennis when Yourdon decided to shut down the original board I was one of the members who was talking with you and others constantly about starting up a new board so we could stay together as a group. I doubt you remember that but I do. I was so grateful for your work and the members migrating to the new addy. I was also so proud of the members who wanted to continue TB so much they gave money of their funds to buy the servers and other equipment and pay the costs of running Timebomb to keep us all together as a community so you can not truthfully say I am the enemy of TB. Since the beginning I have loved Timebomb, even the old Greenspun board. Timebomb is not one person or one man.
Since you Dennis have seriously breeched the rules on member's private information and again willfully today, if the rules are going to be followed then Dennis the honorable thing is I am afraid you must step down and appoint or have the board or mods elect a new chief head. You must remove yourself from staff and regretfully have your membership in Timebomb2000 revoked. Either do this or IMO the rules of the board mean nothing and the honor of the board in in question.
You have had a good long ride being in charge Dennis but you have seriously broken the rules. Do the honorable thing.
If in a temper, which we all know you have, you decide to shut down the board down and someone else starts one up, someone post the new addy all over all the boards members have flown to.
Since I am making this post in service to right and rules I also may be banned; if so everyone I have enjoyed your company since 1998 and hopefully will see you around and God be with you. __________________ obo
At the rate people are getting booted, Dennis, there won't be anyone left to pay the bills. Then what?
Another membership drive, followed by a fundraiser, followed by the banning of the older members who have seen it all 100 times before and dare say something about it, of course.
I looked in over there earlier today and was surprised by the number of posts started by staff. Not too many replies either. Down and down we go, round and round we go.....
I looked in over there earlier today and was surprised by the number of posts started by staff. Not too many replies either. Down and down we go, round and round we go.....
Please flush when you are finished, OK?
-- Edited by Boon Doggle at 14:50, 2007-05-09
Yup, it's a wasteland. Except for a few news items that could be had at GLP, Fark, or Elaine's anyway.
Looks like DJO queen extaordinaire is going through a good old fashioned shunning.
If the other mods (and members) want an ounce of credibility when lardass ultimately flushes himself online, they need to stop posting lockstep with the psycho.
You must remove yourself from staff and regretfully have your membership in Timebomb2000 revoked. Either do this or IMO the rules of the board mean nothing and the honor of the board in in question. __________________ obo
Now you've finally gotten it. TB2Gay is an oligarchy, one set of rules for the peasant class which does not apply to the elite class.
Guess which class you are in? Now STFU and pay the bills.
I hereby take back all the mean remarks I ever made about obo's painted terra cotta flower pots.
But I do object to the word "regretfully" used in the post in reference to Lardass having his Time Boob membership revoked... Insert "immediately" and we be cool.
Enjoy the banning, obo. You're one of us now. Remember: No Pfishing allowed @ Uncle Buck's Time Out!