BBSAM wrote:

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"he was engaged in activities of late that simply couldn't be ignored".

What might those be?  Geeze, they sound like the KGB all up in your grill.

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He dared question fatboy. So now the character assassination must begin to make him look like the bad guy and fatboy to look like the victim. 

-- Edited by Eric Cartman at 10:45, 2007-05-05

"he was engaged in activities of late that simply couldn't be ignored".

What might those be?



Using his brain?

Cartman wrote:

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 Dennis Olson
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First, the staffer was NOT Satanta. Second, the staff member is willing to testify in court that this threat was made.

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The people who have spoken to me had direct conversations with him (and they've had them before, so they know who he is), where the threats were made... And the people to whom he spoke WILL testify in court.

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I will say this one time:

I have independently verified information that XXX, who lives in XXX with XXX, has threatened my life. I chose to make the threat public in the hope that shining the light of day on such a THREAT TO MURDER SOMEONE BY A MEMBER would cause the person to rethink their pending actions. Once a THREAT TO MURDER SOMEONE is made here, all guarantees of "meatworld privacy" are null and void.

If some of you cannot understand WHY that would be true, I do invite you to make your cyber home elsewhere. I will not discuss this further, nor debate with those of you armchair quarterbacks to have NOTHING BUT WORDS invested in this. My life was directly threatened. Not yours or your loved ones. Now I respectfully submit that you consider the hard reality of what I just said.

Brooks was entirely collateral damage. When Lynnie was banned, she immediately logged on as Markus in an attempt to continue her "crusade." Because of that, Markus' account had to be removed as well. When PoJ was banned, I felt that he'd simply log on as Brooks and continue doing the things that caused his removal. (And no, it was NOT his responses on a thread that brought it on.)

Staff decisions are not up for a popularity vote. The fact that we even ALLOW discussion of these topics should be proof enough of how genuinely lenient this place is compared to many others. I WILL take whatever action I deem necessary to safeguard not only the forum and its members, but myself as well. Note that recently, there have been forays from ex-members into MY REAL LIFE. Because of that, I take a murder threat pretty seriously.

You are free not to of course, because it's not your lives that are being threatened.

Now, if you can't remain on TB after reading this post, please just LEAVE. The Internet is a very big place. My goal is to remain safe, and keep my family safe, in our real world lives. Whether or not that affects some of your "personal trust" in me doesn't matter...

EDIT: For the record, I just finished providing the responding officer with the complete details and contact information not only for the people to whom XXX made the threats, but for XXX as well. So the whole thing is now completely on-the-record with the police.

L*a lost it a long time ago. His symptoms just keep reappearing from time to time.

ALF

I'm sure I'm far from the only person who's been communicating to 'the accused' that nobody & I mean NOBODY who's had anything to do with him online buys any of this garbage for a second. I hope he believes that because even the few people I know who've had some issues with him in the past flat out refuse to buy into this ****.

The latest . . . right before the thread got closed . . .

 Yesterday, 11:37 PM
   
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onebyone said:

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Since you Dennis have seriously breeched the rules on member's private information and again willfully today, if the rules are going to be followed then Dennis the honorable thing is I am afraid you must step down and appoint or have the board or mods elect a new chief head. You must remove yourself from staff and regretfully have your membership in Timebomb2000 revoked.

No. You are free to go anywhere you wish however, and Godspeed to you.

I learned about the threat to my person about 15 minutes before I posted it to the forum. My thought for posting was simple:

If, by "outing" him, I made him decide to not show up at my door, then that was a win. Why? Because if he DID show up at my door with intent to harm me, I'd have killed him. Now, even if that killing were 100% "righteous" WRT criminal action, I'd still spend the next year in court and $100,000 of my own money in defense of a wrongful death suit. In that event, we'd lose our home and almost everything we own and be destitute.

So, take that chance, or post a public thread to let him know that lots of people now knew what he'd threatened in order to make him reconsider. Seems like the post was the much wiser choice.

And on that note, not ONE of you folks were placed in this position. I was the only person facing this problem. How many of you would be willing to send me thousands of $'s for my defense? How many of you would be in a position to give me a new job when the (potential) wrongful death suit came to trial and my employer cut me loose?

And why did I take THIS particular threat seriously? Because less than two weeks ago, multiple people decided to take a cyber-attack into my real life in a concerted effort to destroy me. So let's just say that I am now more sensitive to nut-cases than I was before all this.

And oBo, who should run TB? YOU??? To be frank, your board persona over the past couple of years has, IMO, demonstrated that you are borderline nuts as well.

JMHO - YMMV

This thread has gone way too far. All questions as to why I posted the information have now been answered.

Thread closed. Should any of you wish to continue this discussion, take to some other venue. It will no longer be discussed here. AT ALL.
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 Yesterday, 11:39 PM
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Just wow.

I leave town yesterday thinking that maybe this latest dustup *might*possibly* be on it's way to winding down. I get back this afternoon to find all of this!

Dennis,
I hate to be the one to tell you this but you really **** and fell back in it this time. Going public with Joe's info was just plain wrong, and for multiple reasons. And it wasn't very smart either. If you're told of a threat, you assess the credibility and if you think it's legit, you gather your evidence and give it to the cops. While doing that you make any preparations for you or your family that is pertinent. But, you don't grab your personal high speed electron megaphone and start blabbing it all out to the world. And you sure don't turn around and possibly liable yourself in retaliation.

Richw is about right. You've left your nethers hanging out for target practice.

I've been reading Joe for a quite a few years now and I just don't see it. And not knowing the credibility of your secret accuser, I'd say this has all the looks of two things. Either it's a pot stirring drama event, or you're being played like a fiddle.

Either way, if this was as serious as you are making it out to be, then no one (mods aside) on this board should even know about it.

You can play it smart or emotional, but not both.
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 Yesterday, 11:40 PM
   
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Renegade, since you DO NOT KNOW who the "witnesses" are, you're position is completely without merit.
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 Yesterday, 11:51 PM
   
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Originally Posted by Onebyone 

You have had a good long ride being in charge Dennis but you have seriously broken the rules. Do the honorable thing.


I don't mean to pick on you OBO.. but I want everyone to see those words again.


THIS is the agenda here folks.. Kick Dennis out.

THIS is the reason we are going through this every few months.

Some people who deem themselves "More intelligent" then you want to remove Dennis as the one in charge of this board.

Why would they spend hours digging up dirt? Why the CONSTANT attacks? One reason.. They want Dennis gone.

They will lie, threaten, twist the truth, hunt for dirt until one thing happens.. We as a group ignore them.

It gets pretty boring to fight a one sided fight. They can do nothing if we as a group ignore them.

We have seen how they can pull good board members apart, put bits of suspicion into members and look what we have.

You want to "get even" with these people and this get rid of this mentality, do the one thing that will do it and ignore them.

So instead of typing that reply, instead of trolling for dirt on them, instead of arguing with anyone here, just let it go. Let Dennis handle what he needs to and just enjoy tb2k for what it is. People act like this is some kind of national security issue here.. its a MESSAGE BOARD people.. not the end of the world.

If you feel that tb2k has gone bad, by all means, move on (and no I am not trying to say that in a mean way). If you are happy here then stay. You don't own tb2k and tb2k does not own you.

This garbage is so not worth it, We come here to learn and share ideas as well as catch up on news.. we do NOT come here to catch up on the latest he said she said gossip.. its tb2k not Survivor or some other mindless reality show.
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EDIT: For the record, I just finished providing the responding officer with the complete details and contact information not only for the people to whom XXX made the threats, but for XXX as well. So the whole thing is now completely on-the-record with the police.


I hope the folks in Boston are lawyered up. Why didn't anyone contact the law when Fatboy threatened the CEO of Exon?

Eric Cartman wrote:

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Anyone have a copy of Fatboys threat to the U.S. Attorney?

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It's in one of those Border Patrol / Dope Smuggler Trial threads.

-- Edited by Mexi Scum at 09:11, 2007-05-06

To be frank, your board persona over the past couple of years has, IMO, demonstrated that you are borderline nuts as well.


So, by DO saying "...you are borderline nuts as well", he sounds as if he is saying, "you are borderline nuts just like me".  That's what I thought when I first read it, and I'm trying hard to find some other way to interpret that.

Is DO self-reporting that HE knows that he is nuts?

A true threat is a statement that a speaker would reasonably foresee that a listener
would reasonably interpret as a serious expression of a purpose to inflict harm, as distinguished
from hyperbole, jest, innocuous talk, expressions of political views, or
other similarly protected speech. It is not necessary that the speaker have the ability
to carry out the threat. State v. Perkins, 2001 WI 46, 243 Wis. 2d 141, 626 N.W.2d
762, 991924.


Does this mean Fatboy would have to hear the alleged threat himself?

Good one.

This caught my eye as I was reading this thread again

I'd still spend the next year in court and $100,000 of my own money


This must be the goal for the next fundraiser.

Dennis Olson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cribbage
Dennis, my advice would be to let it drop.

You are ONLY hurting your own credibility by stoking the fires. Kinda like the school yard bullies; ignore them, and eventually they will go away.

But you are protesting your innocence awfully loudly, and to an outsider, it just might seem a little "too" loudly.

Shakespeare was wise when he wrote "Me thinks he doth protest too loudly" or something like that.

Let it drop.

The more you stir the pot (and you ARE stirring it), the more guilty you look.

Let it drop.

Um, actually, this post is meant to alert the membership that supposed cyber-friends might contact them for whatever dirt they can get. While I can't control that (nor do I particularly care), I want folks to know that this is being attempted. What each person chooses to do (or not do) is their own choice. But IMO it's important to let people know when bad people are doing bad things.

The selective realities inhabited by some folks make me shake my head in disbelief.

JMHO - YMMV

Just in case it's needed... What are the Wisconsin/Minnesota
statutes on sodomy?



Also have either of those states (or perhaps the Twin Cities) passed any ordinances on Trans Fatty foods yet?


And just for good meausre, I'd REALLY like to see the PD & FD
show up @ 1313 Mockingbird Lane in Hudson to haul away all of Lardass' dangerous and (getting old) gasoline.

If The Committee cares to stir some ****  in that direction it should be easy to get a list of his closest neighbors in the Internet (MSN White Pages) to "stoke up" their concern. This is perfectly legal and it's my understanding, Jerome's neighbors are not thrilled with his activities in the first place. Just a thought.

P.S. This would not fall into the category of stalking or harassing
        family members. It would be doing a community service. If
        we act quickly, no way would Thunder Buns have time to do
        anything but watch the festivities and pay the (steep) fine (s).
        After a cursory inspection the REAL LEOs  they may (will) even
        find other code violations relating to fire hazards, neighborhood
        peace and safety, perhaps even firearms excesses.  
  

-- Edited by OBLIVIOUS at 21:27, 2007-05-10

-- Edited by OBLIVIOUS at 21:28, 2007-05-10

OBLIVIOUS wrote:

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 @ 1313 Mockingbird Lane

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LOL, thats the address on my Safeway club card.

"having posters line I-90 donning astronaut diapers,"

And that was the funniest thing I've seen in a while, thanks.

 

Fatboy has been laying low since this last blowup. If I were the damaged parties in this I would have an attorney and end up owning Fatboy and his bike.

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jmh
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Edited for correction

-- Edited by Kat at 05:55, 2007-05-13

Yellowsprings quit her TB modship and is settling down at CE.

Hiya, Brooks!!!  Got those tomatoes growing?

Someone has to ask so it might as well be me. Are you and POJ going to let Fatboy get away with it?

I know the LEAST about jmh & Todberg.

I know the LEAST about jmh & Todberg.todberg is not a mod, but he's hung around since Greenspun. He is and always has been an asskisser.

jmh is the daughter of "aintitfunny". I very much doubt it was her.

Timbo or Intergator, I have no doubt they'd do it without hesitation.

fatboy cant lose it, ya know he had the operation, didnt work, couldnt keep his damn mouth shut. except for me of course. he he!

cartman, you posted a pic of a luv ring. me n uncle buck used that plenty times.