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No damages for student who said 'That's so gay'

POSTED: 9:00 a.m. EDT, May 16, 2007

SANTA ROSA, California (AP) -- A judge ruled Tuesday that a high school student who sued after being disciplined and then mercilessly teased for using the phrase "That's so gay" is not entitled to monetary damages.

Sonoma County Superior Court Judge Elaine Rushing said she sympathized with 18-year-old Rebekah Rice for the ridicule she experienced at Maria Carrillo High School. But, the judge said, Rice's lawyers failed to prove that school administrators had violated any state laws or singled the girl out for punishment.

"All of us have probably felt at some time that we were unfairly punished by a callous teacher, or picked on and teased by boorish and uncaring bullies," the judge wrote in a 20-page ruling. "Unfortunately, this is part of what teenagers endure in becoming adults."

The law "is simply too crude and imprecise an instrument to satisfactorily soothe deeply hurt feelings," Rushing said.

The case filed by Rice and her parents in 2003 brought widespread attention to a three-word phrase that some teenagers use to mean "stupid" or "uncool," but has come under attack as an insensitive insult to gay people.

The Rices argued that a teacher violated Rebekah Rice's First Amendment rights by sending her to the principal's office and putting a note in her school file. During a trial in February, Rebekah Rice testified she said "That's so gay" as a response to other students asking her rude questions about her Mormon upbringing.

Rushing said the school district was not liable for monetary damages because the law under which the Rices brought the lawsuit specifically excludes schools. In addition, she said that school officials are given wide latitude in deciding how to enforce non-discrimination provisions of the state education code.

The judge added that it didn't make sense to have the referral stricken from the girl's school record, since she graduated last year.

The lawsuit also accused the public high school of having a double standard because, it said, administrators never sought to shield Rebekah from teasing based on Mormon stereotypes. It also alleged that the Rices were singled out because of the family's conservative views on sexuality.

Rushing rejected each claim, going so far as to suggest that the Rices had created a miserable situation for Rebekah by advertising their dissatisfaction with the school's handling of the incident during her freshman year.

Neither the Rices nor their lawyer returned telephone calls seeking comment.

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  #2    Yesterday, 01:58 PM 
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What's really amazing is that society let the gays out of the closet. To 'normalize' these abomonations is what's truly sickening.
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grantbo, since gays have been around since the beginning of time and we know that regardless of what we do as a society we can't stop the behavior, is it better to keep them hidden away in "the closet", where they marry the opposite sex, have children, then sneak out and have homosexual relations, or is it better to let them be who or what they are? just a thought..............
 

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What's really amazing is that society let the gays out of the closet. To 'normalize' these abomonations is what's truly sickening. 

If anyone needs an example, here's exactly the kind of thing I was referring to in my reply to Dennis's poll about what we really think of this place. This garbage really does get quite tedious after awhile.
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  #6    Yesterday, 02:52 PM 
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we just need to remember that we don't have to agree with someone else's opinion, just respect their right to express themselves.
 

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grantbo, since gays have been around since the beginning of time and we know that regardless of what we do as a society we can't stop the behavior, is it better to keep them hidden away in "the closet", where they marry the opposite sex, have children, then sneak out and have homosexual relations, or is it better to let them be who or what they are? just a thought..............

I'll answer: it's better for society to put them into the closet.

"...or is it better to let them be who or what they are?" Who they are, are evil abmoninations. God nuked S and G for their evil ways. You have to do something pretty bad to have God nuke 2 entire cities. You get the point, right?
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grantbo, his SON also said to love the sinner hate the sin....you seem unable to make teh separation..
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grantbo, his SON also said to love the sinner hate the sin....you seem unable to make teh separation..

You bring up a very good point. I'll leave the gushy 'tolerant', 'understanding', 'forgiving' wanting to 'help', to the many many others who are so inclined. I think these abominations and their supporters have made their choice, and no amount of persuasion will change their black hearts. As they become 'normalized' in our society, they become more free to spread their parasitic evil. I'm not inclined to 'love the sinner'; I'd rather make them aware that they are an evil blight on this earth.
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I guess my point is that they are going to be "spreading their parasitic evil" regardless of what society thinks. The only difference is they will get married etc... as a cover and end up hurting alot of innocent people.
 

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Why is it that most of the people who gush "love the sinner, hate the sin" nonsense about gays do NOT say the same thing about cretins who beat 90 year old women, monsters who rape toddlers to death and teens who set dogs on fire??

When is it you people are going to climb down off your high horses and ALLOW GOD TO BE THE DECIDER OF WHAT IS ABOMINABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE. You can't claim to believe and worship God and still refuse to get you fanny off HIS throne and quit playing God, even contradicting and judging God's wisdom in saying that.
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If anyone needs an example, here's exactly the kind of thing I was referring to in my reply to Dennis's poll about what we really think of this place. This garbage really does get quite tedious after awhile.

As does your "garbage".

Ain't America great! We can all state our opinion. For now anyway. Between the homo/pervision-loving/greenie/commie/libs and the people that want to control the internet, free speech (that is, dissenting opinions) could soon land you in prison.
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Kids say a lot of really stupid things. We all know that. The really sad thing is that adults say a lot of really stupid things too. Intolerance is really stupid too.
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 the whole thing is just sick!!!!!!!!!
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San Francisco is the queer and liberal capital on the west coast. Sonoma County runs second with infiltration of queers (gays, such a defilement of the word). Santa Rosa has a large base of lesbian and homosexual employees and any judge, especially this unqualified judge, could only come back with such a ruling. Stupid scum sucking attorneys should have moved the case to a more conservative county.
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When is it you people are going to climb down off your high horses and ALLOW GOD TO BE THE DECIDER OF WHAT IS ABOMINABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE. You can't claim to believe and worship God and still refuse to get you fanny off HIS throne and quit playing God, even contradicting and judging God's wisdom in saying that.

Seems to me God did decide. Didn't you read the bible? It's pretty clear. And that knowledge combined with my God given wisdom allows me to make clear thinking judgements. The "love the sinner, hate the sin" argument is just a way to muzzle Christians.

I'd rather ride a high horse then lay with vermin anyday.

Sligo said: "Intolerance is really stupid too." Is it now? Why should I be tolerant of a behavior that's clearly a horribly evil? Why don't you see this? Why doesn't everyone see this?
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Sligo said: "Intolerance is really stupid too." Is it now? Why should I be tolerant of a behavior that's clearly a horribly evil? Why don't you see this? Why doesn't everyone see this?

Sometimes, Grantbo, some people only see the things in their own head, just like some people only hear the things in their own head. There are medications for that. These medications can clear your vision and stop the voices.
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grantbo, since gays have been around since the beginning of time and we know that regardless of what we do as a society we can't stop the behavior, is it better to keep them hidden away in "the closet", where they marry the opposite sex, have children, then sneak out and have homosexual relations, or is it better to let them be who or what they are? just a thought..............

NO NO NO! Don't feed the troll!

That is exactly what Grantbo is, especially on this subject.

Just a big, farkin troll!
 

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  #19    Yesterday, 09:21 PM 
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Grantbo is going by the word of God!
City Bear is a queer and he doesn't like Grantobo calling it like it is. The truth as told by the word of God.
I am sick and tired of people trying to turn evil into good and good into evil.
God is GOOD! Get it. God is the truth! Why don't you try reading the bible Ain't! Then you'll have a clue about Gods judgment. City!I don't hate you. I hate what you do.
 

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Grantbo is going by the word of God!
City Bear is a queer and he doesn't like Grantobo calling it like it is. The truth as told by the word of God.
I am sick and tired of people trying to turn evil into good and good into evil.
God is GOOD! Get it. God is the truth! Why don't you try reading the bible Ain't! Then you'll have a clue about Gods judgment. City!I don't hate you. I hate what you do.

No, he isn't. God hasn't spoken directly to him, or you for that matter.

You fundies are so hung up on the parts of the Bible that you consider important enough to shout in the sinner's face, that you've completely ignored the parts of it that address YOUR behavior.

I hope God has mercy on you, too.
 

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Read the Word City Bear! Thats all I ask. The book of Romans for one. See you deny that the word of God is from the Bible. Where is your hope?
 

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Seems to me God did decide. Didn't you read the bible? It's pretty clear. And that knowledge combined with my God given wisdom allows me to make clear thinking judgements. The "love the sinner, hate the sin" argument is just a way to muzzle Christians.

I'd rather ride a high horse then lay with vermin anyday.

Sligo said: "Intolerance is really stupid too." Is it now? Why should I be tolerant of a behavior that's clearly a horribly evil? Why don't you see this? Why doesn't everyone see this? 

You need to re-read my post. I'm being hit by "friendly fire".
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Grantbo is going by the word of God!
City Bear is a queer and he doesn't like Grantobo calling it like it is. The truth as told by the word of God.
I am sick and tired of people trying to turn evil into good and good into evil.
God is GOOD! Get it. God is the truth! Why don't you try reading the bible Ain't! Then you'll have a clue about Gods judgment. City!I don't hate you. I hate what you do.

You too, Ozarkian, you are shooting at the wrong side. I'm being hit by friendly fire. Reread, my post was directed at pro-gay advocates.
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Sorry Ainitfunny, I did misread your post. You were actually saying let the word be the judge. Sorry.
 

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NO NO NO! Don't feed the troll!

That is exactly what Grantbo is, especially on this subject.

Just a big, farkin troll!

Troll, me? Hah haaa  You want to shut me up cause you don't like the truth.

Sligo, weak shot. No defense so attack me personally.

Ain't F: I stand corrected. I re-read your post and now see what you mean.
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If anyone needs an example, here's exactly the kind of thing I was referring to in my reply to Dennis's poll about what we really think of this place. This garbage really does get quite tedious after awhile.

I tend to agree with Chartreuse on this one---and I am as conservative as they come.
Just because the closet door is open---doesnt mean we have to obsess over its contents. It is the last days  Do we expect the prophecies pertaining to the last days to be only fulfilled in a corner--out of view?

By the way Chartreuse--I love your Chuck Palaihunuk quote.