If this doesn't display old Denny's depth of paranoia, I don't know what would.
I can't imagine any true freedom-loving, tyranny-hating people putting up with this nonsense. It certainly is a complete turn off to me. Yuck.

I can't imagine any true freedom-loving, tyranny-hating people putting up with this nonsense.


I can't either. I don't think there's very many people there who actually fit that description any more, if any.

Diesel wrote:

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If this doesn't display old Denny's depth of paranoia, I don't know what would.
I can't imagine any true freedom-loving, tyranny-hating people putting up with this nonsense. It certainly is a complete turn off to me. Yuck.

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He's a modern day Jim Jones and we all know how Jim ended up.

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ADMIN - So your account has been deactivated. Why, and what you can do about it?
Due to the latest attacks from the haters, it was necessary for me to go into the member records and inactivate people who:

- Haven't visited / logged on to the forum in a long time

- Have been a member for some time but only have a couple posts (if any)

Why was this done?

Well, it was reported back to me that some of the banned haters planned to use "second accounts" that they'd had created for just such a contingency. Considering what a PITA these haters have been, I decided to make the ATTEMPT to disallow them their desired "secret" return. Unfortunately, many legitimate lurkers were caught up in this as well, and for that I apologize. However, there really was no reasonable alternative.

Now many of you have been in contact with myself or other staff members asking to be reinstated. If you want to be reinstated, here's what it will take:

- You will have to be more active on the forum. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD after all. If you never post (at all), how do we know that you're not one of those wanting secret re-entry? We don't.

- Your email addresses MUST be ISP-based, and not anonymous. EVERY EMAIL DOMAIN will be vetted to assure that this is the case prior to reinstatement

If you do NOT want to post, but DO want reinstatement, you will have to provide me (via PM) concrete information as to who you are. This information must include:

- A phone number which has your name on the billing account. That means NO "pay-as-you-go" cell phones

- Your real name, first and last

- The city and state in which you live

Again, you MAY NOT use an anonymous email address.

Members now will be limited to TWO reactivations. After being deactivated for the second time, your account will be permanently disabled. At that point, asking for reinstatement will be futile.

I deeply regret the lengths that I've had to go to because of the haters, but unless-and-until they're shut down for good, this is the way it has to be.

EDIT: Members who've been reinstated will have the validity of their email addresses checked periodically. Those whose email addresses are no longer valid will be inactivated immediately, and perhaps permanently.


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Dennis, You do whatever you have to do to keep some order.
I dont mind someone disagreeing with me as long as it doesnt get personal and they attack me.
Disagreements are what make stimulating conversations if they are done with respect for each other.
Thanks for your efforts in our behalf.


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Now giving it the ol' 'Tanta Twist...


'Hi! How are ya? If you've been deactivated because you are not posting chances are you either do not come here or are not a true member and wasting the boards money using bandwidth that an active poster who participates, could use or just here to cause headaches therefore it is with great pleasure that I say to you:

Na-na-na-Nah, Na-na-na-Nah, Hey-hey-hey, Goodbyeeeeee!!!!"

But Dennis is more of a politician than I am so I'll let him tell you instead.
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Dennis:

Good move, hopefully this will stop 1 avenue of attack from the hater boards.

Too bad lurkers/infrequent posters will bear the brunt of it, but it can't be helped.

Like Dennis said, you want to remain a member, try posting at least once a month, and keep your e-mail address current. We've already had to inactivate accounts due to dead e-mail accounts.

In order to update or check your e-mail address, go to User CP and check your profile info. If you're e-mail isn't current, please update it immediately, the "e-mail sweeper" is an automated process that we have no control over.

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Now giving it the ol' 'Tanta Twist...


'Hi! How are ya? If you've been deactivated because you are not posting chances are you either do not come here or are not a true member and wasting the boards money using bandwidth that an active poster who participates, could use or just here to cause headaches therefore it is with great pleasure that I say to you:

Na-na-na-Nah, Na-na-na-Nah, Hey-hey-hey, Goodbyeeeeee!!!!"

But Dennis is more of a politician than I am so I'll let him tell you instead.

Ah Satanta.

Ever the diplomat. Could we expect any less?
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Is there an official privacy policy for folks who give you name, address and phone number?

You know... some guarantee that someone won't get their panties in a wad at some point and PUBLISH that information?



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so..my DH...aka plainsman...probably assumes that I do enough posting for "da bod of us."
He's the strong, silent type.
If he's deactivated, I'll have him PM you Dennis.


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Summerthyme: PMing Dennis personal information is a security for people who don't want to post, but DO want reinstatement (I.E people that fit the profile for UB Lurkers, etc.)

Most normal members actually post every now and then, or will have to get over their shyness enough to post at least once a month. We found and eliminated several possible UB stealth trolls when Dennis went through the member rolls looking for registered members with very few posts that had been members for more than 2 years.

In order to prevent this from happening again, Dennis is making a reasonable request. "You want to be a member, but not post, PM me and give me enough personal info for the police or the courts to track you down if necessary."

This is a private forum, Dennis is the owner, and the board security and integrity come before ANY member, including Staff.

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Fleataxi... I understand why he's doing it.

But I believe my question is reasonable... it's certainly the first thing I look at/for before I give personal info to ANY website, commercial or otherwise.

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I'm posting this mostly to check my post count. I don't comment often...


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Summerthyme. Since yop post frequently, the question is moot. This only applies to people who DON'T post at all, and still want to be members. he's not forcing ANYONE to give out personal info. If they choose not to - they can go elsewhere. if they post more than let's say once every couple of months, and have a valid e-mail address, they've got nothing to worry about.

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I've been here for 2 months & already have a post count over 600. I think its safe to say I post enough.
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I would like to see older members get some sort of props in the way of being "grandfathered" into a permanent membership base. Mushroom Clouds, for example, is one who posts infrequently, but I'd hate to think that she couldn't post when she was so inclined!

Perhaps those who joined prior to, say 2003?


Just my 2 cents ...


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Please don't kick Phoenician off, I can vouch for her.

She has been my best friend since grade school. (about 26 years)

Phoenician almost never posts anything, but keeps up with stuff. Don't kick her off!


Don't get rid of people just for a few rotten eggs. We all know that anything put on the net is at risk for abuse and use. Why fight it. You will probably get rid of great members only to have the rotten ones find some other way to get back on. IMO its just not worth it. You have tons of lurkers on tb2k, thats not a bad thing.


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How many times has someone we never hear from come forward to report a local incident ?

Why would we want to get rid of these people?

Just Nuts.


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As to information provided to me:

If the member doesn't make threats against the life of myself, staff, or other members, the information will NEVER be used. In the event of death threats, any information would be turned over to whatever LEA would be doing the investigation. Note that just saying "I'm gonna kill you, you SoB" isn't a "valid" enough death threat. Something has to be reported to the staff, and the report would have to have real merit.

As to "grandfathering?" No. Some folks have been member for THREE YEARS and have ONE POST. Some of thes people are now the ones asking to be reactivated. WHY, after 3 years, would they want that...?

Hmmmm.... You know?


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Good move
The haters brag openly about doing this on other boards. They even advise others to create "backup" accounts.

This is a good response, Dennis. I still wish you would sue.
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Summerthyme. Since yop post frequently, the question is moot. This only applies to people who DON'T post at all, and still want to be members. he's not forcing ANYONE to give out personal info. If they choose not to - they can go elsewhere. if they post more than let's say once every couple of months, and have a valid e-mail address, they've got nothing to worry about.

Fleataxi

I think what Summerthyme wants to know is how safe is it for someone to give Dennis their personal information. He has been known to go off the deep end from time to time and divulge personal info. So why would someone trust him with their personal info? Just guessing here. But that is what I am gathering from Summerthyme's post.
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Unique- in the case of spouse, good freind or relative that can have a current member vouch it should be fine.

As far as someone posting a local event that joined two or three years ago and never posts? None I'm aware of.
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Midnight Wolf... actually, it wasn't even that pointed or personal.

ANY responsible commercial site (and TB is that now, fully incorporated, etc) which asks for personal information has an official "privacy policy" which states... clearly... where your information would be used, whether they'd sell it, divulge it, or whether it will be PRIVATE.

In these times, I don't think it's unreasonable for anyone who is asking for those types of info to clearly state whether or not they will ever print that info for general consumption, etc, or sell it to a data miner or someone who is compiling a mailing list.

And I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that if you receive actual, valid threats that info would be passed on to law enforcement for *investigation*. However, in the recent past, that wasn't what happened. A threat was reported by a third party, and a members info was publically posted on the 'net.

Maybe what I'm asking is "do we now have a policy which says this WON'T happen again?"

Because folks should know what they're risking before they hand over info- whether it's to their bank, a website which sells stuff or a forum.

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Edit to make this more readable.

-- Edited by Eric Cartman at 18:03, 2007-05-25

If the member doesn't make threats against the life of myself, staff, or other members, the information will NEVER be used.



I don't know if I'd trust what he just said. Afterall, he didn't say "God's truth!".

Gotta keep the members paranoid. We want to do "them" harm. What an obnoxious idiot.

As for PoJ, all I posted about him was his city. And I have his exact address, and where his SO works (name of company and address), as well as their phone number. WAS ANY OF THAT THAT POSTED??
 

He's lying again. He also posted his name.

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More off-topic posts removed.


By off topic he means any post the dares question Herr Fatboy.

-- Edited by Eric Cartman at 19:06, 2007-05-25

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I figured "**** stirring" was going to get mentioned here pretty quick.

Dennis.,.. GET A CLUE.

IF you posted ANY information which could have led to someone ELSE being able to trace a member (and these days, the full name and city CAN BE enough)...

And if someone on the board or simply a lurker for some reason had a beef with that member (or had developed a fantasy crush on them... both have happened on the 'net) and used that information to track them down.

Guess who would be held liable? (And no, that's NOT a threat... it's a fact of life. And it's something you NEED to understand as the "owner" of a forum when you are asking for personal information to the degree that you stated in your first posts on this thread)

And Fleataxi... no, a Privacy Policy is not "just electrons on a screen"... it is, in fact, an enforceable contract which is a guarantee (with legal recourse, if necessary) that the website will (or won't) protect the integrity of personal information provided to them in the course of business.

You know... the only one here who constantly mentions lawyers, calling the cops, filing suit, etc... is Dennis. But he seems to have no interest in doing even the minor basics which are considered standard practice which would protect HIMSELF, the corporation which is TB and the members. And quite honestly, I don't understand that at all.

Summerthyme



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Wanna make a wager on how much **** is going to fall out from Lardass' latest move?

Summerthyme in Timeout? Bad move Lardass...really bad move.

Damn, he is his own worst enemy....BAR-NONE!

I definetly need some popcorn for this one.

Diesel wrote:

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In order to prevent this from happening again, Dennis is making a reasonable request. "You want to be a member, but not post, PM me and give me enough personal info for the police or the courts to track you down if necessary."

Can you say Delusions of Grandeur?

And all his little children quickly respond, "Oh yes, Dear Father! We trust you implicitly!"

Gag me.

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Come this fall his children will throw money at him like it's going out of style.

I gotta agree DAnon. There's no way I'd give him my fake personal info, let alone my real info.

But, if he wants to delete his lurkers, that's fine with me. The more he bans and deletes the lower his page views go, the lower his hit count goes, the lower he sinks in the ratings, the lower his chance of selling ad space, the poorer he gets, the nuttier he gets....

And if any cultist nut job wants to give out their personal information to a criminal whacko like DO in this 21st century, they will certainly get what they deserve.

LOL Alf!

Just watch. This thread will be "disappeared" in a couple days.

Yeah, any fool that doesn't realize FL was posting at UBs is just that - a fool.  Just like people who don't realize there's someone over at the Tree who posts just like Olson.  Jeezzz . . .

I didn't see either MW or SummerT in TO.

I did see Chuckie say, "I DO trust Olson" . . . I translate that into:
"Never trust Chuckie" (like I'd be fool enough to do that anyway).

TB2Gay is made up of Nazi Mods and Mindless Zombies. Everyone with at least one brian cell or more bolted many meltdowns ago.

It's liking reading a newspaper online for many or a magazine.
Or a comic book.



I don't get it. Nothing has been happening since the last blowup and he has to go all drama queen on us and pull this ****.
Something happened all right. Fruit Loop has returned to the fold and is spilling her guts of all she has gleaned from the 'Haters' during her banishment. Even now she continues her crusade at the Hater boards, under the moniker 'Alec'.

OMFG Cartman, don't give him any more ideas!

I wonder how long before he brings up the subject of a TB-Too-Gay mutual assistance retreat/commune..

Where did the delusions about "death threats" come from? Daymn...I thought I was paying attention...that one must have beamed in from outer space.

Sounds like his faithful followers are getting fed up with the drama. That ass-kisser Marine even told him to quit stirring the pot.

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I would like to see older members get some sort of props in the way of being "grandfathered" into a permanent membership base. Mushroom Clouds, for example, is one who posts infrequently, but I'd hate to think that she couldn't post when she was so inclined!


Someone needs to get word to nanna that Mushroom Clouds has been inactive for a long time, by her request.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! Some lurkers say they don't feel intelligent enough to post at TB. Low intelligence is an asset over there.

Free Your Mind is banned for questioning Queen Lardass.

Did anyone capture the post that led to Free Your Mind's banning? And I see that Big Kamura is still wondering about that cookie, no one has answered yet.

FYM cont.
One good turn deserves another. Perhaps it's been discussed to death in places that aren't public or even member viewable, as it should be, as well.

It doesn't change the fact that Summerthyme has a good idea in regards to a legal notice. I know Fleataxi's concern is that it costs money, but ya know... the "it's only electrons on a screen" thing seems rather odd to me. Does it not work both ways?You deleting her posts has left you with a perception problem. Regardless of how you conduct yourself or the affairs of this board, the perception is that any consideration of the rights of the members, such that Summerthyme has suggested there are, does not outweigh your entitlement to do with any and all personal information as you see fit. When anyone raises concerns on a forum supposedly dedicated to the welfare of its membership - their personal as well as financial safety - and those concerns are summarily deleted and labeled as "****" stirring, it looks less like an internet discussion forum and more like a group of people more concerned with their personal welfare and gains who enact milieu control in order to silence reasonable calls for their accountability.

(skip Fruit Loop)
Skip FYM's reply to FL

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If you had legitimate answers, and they'd been discussed elsewhere, simply post the thread link to her. Would that not have ended the concern? If you're referring to the privacy notice, then I posted that subsequent to her request for one. If you're referring to the death threat issue, that has already been discussed. AT LENGTH. And will not be on that thread.Auto email to anyone you've inactivated. I do not have the capability installed to auto-email everyone that I'd inactivated. If you are aware of an auto-email plug-in for vBulletin that I can install, which will cover usergroup changes, please post a link. I'd be MORE than happy to install it.There is nothing to learn after you've made the initial announcement. There is no debate, no discussion.Actually, there's been a GREAT DEAL of legitimate discussion on that thread. You simply choose to ignore it however, to follow your own agenda.Perhaps it's been discussed to death in places that aren't public or even member viewable, as it should be, as well. AS YOU WELL KNOW, it was discussed on Main, then moved to TIO for an additional period. Everyone who was interested got a chance to read and respond.the perception is that any consideration of the rights of the members, such that Summerthyme has suggested there are, does not outweigh your entitlement to do with any and all personal information as you see fit.No, that's YOUR perception (Aleph), and not the majority of the board members. When anyone raises concerns on a forum supposedly dedicated to the welfare of its membership - their personal as well as financial safety - and those concerns are summarily deleted and labeled as "****" stirring, it looks less like an internet discussion forum and more like a group of people more concerned with their personal welfare and gains who enact milieu control in order to silence reasonable calls for their accountability.It's not that this issue gets raised, it's HOW it gets raised, and by whom. If the person raising an issue is known to be an ass (such as yourself), then their entire REASON for raising the issue is suspect. ST raised a privacy issue. I posted a "privacy policy" to address it. Asked and answered. Except that's not good enough for the ****-stirrers (such as yourself).

Quote:Originally Posted by fruit loop Go back to Uncle Bob's...You're not fooling anyone here.
Quote:FYM You appear to be off topic in my thread.However since you brought it up...Post proof

.Anyone would would ask that already knows the answer. Buh bye....

One more thing about lawyers: I've spent OVER $2000 on the attorney since last fall. Money that BY ALL RIGHTS should have been available for the monthly ISP charges. But this drain is EXACTLY what the haters want; one of their tactics is to attempt to shut the board down through lack of funding, or force me to "ask for money" so often that their constant claim of "misuse of funds" appears to be correct.

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It's funny, Dennis, because we're not from Uncle Bob's, at all. When one considers the hair-splitting ad hominem tu quoques running abundantly through this thread, and elsewhere on this board, and how they contribute to such an overwhelming lack of civility that the admin of the board has lost their ability to test reality and has to open threads polling members on the problems related to the board, one must conclude that they have only themselves to blame for the misfortune that befalls them. Such dysfunctional tactics, among many, many others, are part of the conundrum which baffles you on a daily basis. You have created and permitted to exist, a dysfunctional environment. From the staff rooms to the self-help forums, there is an atmosphere pervasive with cult-like mind-games that you have cultivated by rewarding attention seeking sycophants.

Your problems with Uncle Bob's are your problems - The fact that they're so pissed off at you as to have been prompted to construct a web-board to de-construct yours is a testament to fundamental flaws with exist within both groups of people - that they should let themselves be slaved to such motivations as to answer the detritus of personal unawareness and self-centeredness, running amok.You don't want to know where we're from. Where we're from makes Uncle Bob's look like a back-yard BBQ - and that's before they resort to the underhanded tactics that those melted-down drama queens wound up resorting to. When we leave, we won't be so concerned with you that we make it a point to invite the disaster that should befall this board, were we to involve our associates in the debacle you create out of your own personal addiction to chaos. You have enough problems on your own.You're funny to **** with, you meandering, paranoid ****-wit. We've been toying with this board, when we could have done much, much worse, and what's pathetic is that you believe you honestly have more sway with us, than we do with you. You, and your sycophants are the social equivalent of Rubix Cubes - not hard to figure out, and once figured out as easily predictable.It's funny how long you took to answer our last post. We really got to you, didn't we? ...What's pathetic is that, REALLY, we were barely trying - it wasn't even our intention to troll you...You just kind of bring it on, all by yourself. If you have to ask your members how you are perceived, do you really know who you are?It appears you don't.

FYM
Oh and since I know we'll be banned after this, one more thing...Southern Gal, you fat, racist ****. Perhaps they'd like to know what boards you've frequented in the past, too. Too bad you didn't pick up any pointers on how to better handle yourself in debate or in the posting of your own pathetic personal information while you were there, eh, Jan's Wizard?

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Well, you had your say, for well and good. I actually appreciate your candor, as many folks are incapable of generating that level of honsety. In any event, I allowed your account to remain active long enough to post your response, and you have done so. I indeed wish you well in whatever cyber-environment you call home. But your tenure here, is, of course, ended.

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Thank you Dennis. That guy was a troll mor often than not....

Lard Ass
What I don't understand is what attracts sociopaths to forums like this? Of course, we had a bumper-crop of them on Greenspun....

"what attracts sociopaths to a forum like this?" Oh gawd, I'm gasping for breath here.

But isn't one of the symptoms of sociopathy the accusation that others are
guilty of sociopathy?

Thanks for salvaging the posts before they were disappeared.

Hey Kat, a poster on another forum claims that someone has installed keyloggers on DO's computers. You know anything about that, or is it just someone's wishful thinking? The same poster claims staff members are copying private conversations and storing all sorts of info from the archives to protect themselves against future legal action.

I wonder when Dennis will start purging mods and admins as his paranoia deepens.

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